No One Has Ever Produced Anything

Clémence Seurat, Dušan Kažić


As part of the art-science research project Post Growth, initiated by the DISNOVATION.ORG – a working group aiming to question the dominant techno-positivist ideologies – Clémence Seurat spoke with French researcher Dušan Kažić. Kažić, a plant anthropologist who has studied the many types of relationships that farmers form with the plants they grow, invites us in this conversation to imagine agriculture and a world without production. The misconception that humanity cannot live without production is deeply rooted in our societies and has the status of common sense. Through the concept of production, economists deanimate living beings in order to make a resource out of them. Thus, we can begin to move away from production by animating living beings in order to maintain relationships with them and live with them. We live in an era of seeking ways of living with plants instead of producing to live. We need a new type of materialism that does not neglect other beings.

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Dušan Kažić interviewed by Clémence Seurat: No One Has Ever Produced Anything
PostScriptUM #42
Series edited by Janez Fakin Janša
Publisher: Aksioma – Institute for Contemporary Art, Ljubljana
Represented by: Marcela Okretič
Translation: Ethan Footlik
Proofreading: Baruch Gottlieb
Design: Luka Umek
Layout: Sonja Grdina
All images: DISNOVATION.ORG, Life Support System (Ecosystem Services Estimation Experiment, part of the art-science research project Post Growth, 2018–ongoing)
pp. 19-21
Photo: Ars Electronica / Martin Hieslmair
(c) Aksioma | All text and image rights reserved by the authors | Ljubljana 2022
Supported by the Ministry of Culture of the Republic of Slovenia and
the Municipality of Ljubljana
Part of Tactics & Practice #12: New Extractivism

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